CIGARETZ -Tuff Kidd LP (1978) rarer alternate cover NM

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Th' Cigaretz - "Tuff Kidd" in stereo on Cancer 34796. Seminal punk album, recorded live at various locations throughout the Raleigh, NC area. Said to be North Carolina's first true punk band, famous for their live shows with punk swagger and attitude (audience baiting, profanity, etc.). This copy is pristine, still in shrink wrap and comes with lyrics insert (which thanks Doug Brotherton and the Ramones for equipment use and technical assistance). Don't pass this one up, you're not likely to find another in such gorgeous condition (or find another one at all).

With later connections to the Beastie Boys, Bad Brains and other seminal punk bands - as well as the band that caused a SWAT team mini-riot in Raleigh in '78 or '79 - this is one of the more important punk rarities, not just from a regional standpoint but world-wide. Some of their songs are now available as MP3 downloads, just to illustrate the importance of this band. But 30 years ago, they were just four unknown musicians spreading the punk gospel to the mid-south, the very first to do it in the area.

Record Grade: Near Mint

Cover Grade: Near Mint, shrink wrap

Labels: Red and silver

Tracks:

1. Crawl Rite Outta My Skin
2. Just Another Piece of Meat
3. Beer
4. F***in' Up Bro
5. Skullfuggin'
6. Apartmentalivin'
7. Scared of Girls
8. Fight or Flight
9. Big Black Shades
10. I Get Nervous
11. Disposable Lighter
12. meat #2
13. City Boy
14. Lament
15. Caffeine
16. Git Outta My House
17. Tuff Kid

    About the Artist: From Perfect Sound Forever....
    When the Punk movement "broke" ....in New York, L.A. and London, it started a chain reaction in some places and a slow metamorphosis in others. In 1977, the first full fledged N.C. punk band was Raleigh's th' Cigaretz. Band members' punk identities included Throb, Bindee, Johnny Guitar and Jimmy Jones. They had been in cover bands for years, but were sick of heavy metal, poodle haircuts, and trying to play wah wah pedals wearing platform shoes. House painters by day, they say it was a combination of paint fumes and Never Mind The Bollocks, that inspired them to "...just say f*** it!." The problem was, original music wasn't of interest to anyone at this time. The only club that would allow them to play regularly was the Free Advice; their Thursday nights were dead so they made them into "Punk Night" to fill the void. "Then we came under the influence of Iggy," relates Byron. "We became every visual and interactive because we wanted the audience's total undivided attention." They started throwing junkfood, toilet paper & cereal into the crowd... anything they could think of. "We gave up on soda and shaving cream because it made the stage so slick and we couldn't get paid after ruining people's monitors." The original drummer left the band when he decided he wasn't paying for all this crap they were wasting just trying to get people's attention. After efforts to record demos at Reflection Studio failed, they decided to try recording themselves live from the soundboard at several shows, including a fantastic Halloween show. It was in this way that they succeeded in getting enough material together to press an album. The Crawl Rite Outta My Skin (34796) live LP, begins with them yelling "Get this guy off the stage! Yeah, you f***in' stupid a-hole, what is this s***!" Eventually released in 1980, it contains classic songs like "F***in' Up Bad," "Skullfuggin" and "Just Another Piece Of Meat." Crawl came out on their own Cancer Records and was embossed with a hand silk screened cover; each one slightly different. Due to this record's 100% D.I.Y. existence it might be hard to say how far it traveled or how much their Heartbreakers-style music had an effect on the rest of the state. But gauging from the response of their fellow musicians, it would be on par with the first Arrogance single in its scope of influence. Legend has it that this was the band that set the Triangle afire with punk rebellion. A well-remembered gig in their career was with the H-Bombs, but the most infamous Cigaretz show was an outdoor May Day block party in '78 or '79. They had basically finished their set and started playing the finale, a "Rolling Stones / Get Off My Cloud Medley," when the police arrived. The city of Raleigh had recently assembled a SWAT Team and dispatched them on a complaint of "obscenities over the P.A. system" for their first assignment. Since the band had almost finished, the crowd was already dispersing, but the SWAT Team overreacted and the situation turned violent. News crews arrived at the scene of the "riot," and broadcast footage of police beating people, some of whom turned out to be well respected and famous people. Public outcry resulted in an investigation. It's no wonder that th' Cigaretz moved to NYC in 1980, but it was only a year before the big city broke them up. Jerry "Johnny Guitar" Williams later took up studio engineering, moved to NYC and recorded the Bad Brains, MDC & Reagan Youth. Scott "Throb" Jarvis engineered and produced the first Beastie Boys LP and was their tour manager when they opened for Madonna. He currently plays in the Workdogs. Byron "Jimmy Jones" McCay followed a similar path, but moved back to Raleigh to start his own studio, which would play an integral part in the upcoming Hardcore movement.

    From indyweek.com:
    Best local record hunter's captured prey: Th'Cigaretz' Crawl Right Outta My Skin Th'Cigaretz, the storied Raleigh band that first marked the punk influence in this state with wild shows in which they baited audiences by confronting them verbally and even throwing old food at them, made only one album, Crawl Right Outta My Skin, released in 1979. The covers were hand-screened, so each cover was unique. The songs, all recorded at live gigs in the area, were bracing and venomous, and never re-released (yet...anyone?), so this is a holy grail for fans looking for the roots of underground music in the Triangle. Many have heard the story of Th'Cigaretz moving to NYC, (followed by the emergence of the hardcore scene here led by Corrosion of Conformity, via a Cigz/Bad Brains connection). Members Jerry Williams and Scott Jarvis were involved in the early Beastie Boys records. On a trip to a local second-hand store (think I'm gonna tell which?), I was a second from walking out empty-handed when the glimmer of the silkscreen hit my eye. In a cosmic coincidence, I had the measly amount in credit at the store, and walked out with a toothy grin. It don't get no better'n this.

    About Jerry Williams (from his MySpace page): Jerry moved to New York in 1979 to further the hardcore music he and his band th' Cigaretz, who had formed in 1977, had been working. Realizing that Raleigh, North Carolina was not the best place in the world to be a punk band, the group made the move; shortly thereafter th' Cigaretz released a twelve-inch. As history would have it, a copy fell into the hands of Dave Parsons who wrote a glowing review of it in Mouth of the Rat. In September of 1980, Jerry Williams would begin renovating the interior of 171A. At the time, most of the available rehearsal spots in New York City were tiny little rooms, but 171A offered much more. Jerry described it as being like "...a full sized room with 15 foot ceilings and a floor space 60 feet long and provided recording artists with a quality PA system suspended from the ceiling. It was a cut above other rehearsal studios and since it was about half the size of CBGB's it produced a very similar sound." Over the next few years, 171A Studio would then go on to be used by the Bad Brains, Regan Youth, Beastie Boys, Young and Useless and many more. In the fall of 1981, Jerry was working extensively with the Bad Brains and actually formed a post-Cigaretz group comprised of Bad Brains roadies who called themselves Bloodclot. Williams played guitar, the Bad Brains drum tech Alvin Robertson did drums, John Joseph (who went on to have success with the Cro-Mags) did vocals, and lastly Ted Horowitz rounded out the Bloodclot line up. Although Bloodclot never released an album, they did perform many live gigs opening for the Bad Brains. In fact, Bloodclot played the second day of the now famous November 1982 CBGB's benefit. Today Jerry resides in California and still stays in contact with fellow former Cigaretz member Scott Jarvis. It was Scott who engineered the Polly Wog Stew ep and also went on tour with the Beastie Boys when they opened for Madonna (1985). Jerry Williams had been on the road with the Bad Brains at the time so by default Jarvis ended up doing the work on that release. However, for the record it was Williams who engineered the Young and Useless' very sought after Real Men Don't Floss ep. http://www.beastiemania.com/whois/williams_jerry/

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