GENESIS Trespass RARER ORIG UK 1970 Pink Scroll EX LP
  £   124
  $   164

 


£ 124 Sold For
Mar 21, 2010 Sold Date
Mar 14, 2010 Start Date
£   14 Start price
13   Number Of Bids
  Great Britain Country Of Seller
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Artist or Band: GENESIS

Album Title: Trespass.

Producer(s): John Anthony.

TRACK LIST:

Side 1: Stagnation; Dusk; The Knife.

Side 2: Looking For Someone; White Mountain; Visions of Angels.

Label/Format: Charisma – Original pink scroll format, smooth finish with B&C credits, of course. (Please see my label scan).

Label Conditions: Both clean and attractive with only modest handling traces. Spindle marks on side one are very light, side two are light+ with a couple of very fine marks near the hole that show a little more.

Cat Number: CAS 1020.

Mode / Speed: Stereo / 33.3 rpm.

Weight of this Record: A hugely impressive 164 grams. [These days, many modern Audiophile reissues are pressed on super-heavyweight 180 gram vinyl. Only a small percentage of ‘vintage vinyl’ was ever pressed this heavy. Records pressed in the 1960s averaged around 140 to 150 grams. Records pressed in the 1970s were usually lighter and averaged more around 115 – 125 grams. Some records pressed around 1973 were very thin and light due an oil crisis and shortage around this time. Some records were even issued on recycled vinyl from this period and sounded poor with crackle and surface noise evident from the very first play. If any record I buy is deemed ‘recycled’, I will never offer it, I have a very simple test to detect these records if I suspect this to be the case other than audible imperfection. Some records from this period were even pressed on other materials the most notable was ‘Dynaflex’, used by RCA around this time. Although inferior to vinyl, this at least mostly sounded reasonably acceptable but pressings on this material were wafer thin and flimsy. Beyond the 70s, records often became thinner and lighter still but most played fine but were never quite the quality as from the ‘Golden Era’]. (This was based on ‘average’ weights for 20 records from these eras. Later pressings were usually lighter still).

Country of Manufacture: England.

Rarity: Quite rare as a first pressing, only after time did the band’s popularity grow and new fans investigate the earlier albums. By then, this was mostly via the pink Hatter label format which are relatively common.

Original Year of Release: 1970.

Matrix Nos: CAS 1020 A-2U / CAS 1020 B-2U

Mother & Stamper Codes: 1 GG / 1 T

Musicians: Peter Gabriel - lead voice, flute, accordion, tambourine, bass drum; Anthony Phillips - acoustic 12-string, lead electric guitars, dulcimer, voices; Anthony Banks - organ, piano, mellotron, guitar, voices; Michael Rutherford - acoustic 12-string, electric bass, nylon, guitar, cello, voices; John Mayhew - drums, percussion, voices.

Brief Info: Second album from one of Progs most famous ever bands. This is the highly collectable and superior Gabriel–‘Progressive’ era and these are far from common. After the debut album on Decca flopped, this sold poorly also, just scraping into the album charts at a lowly 98, it failed to chart at all in the US. Again the price guides give few clues to value and rarity on this album, this simply does not show up often and those that do often in very poor conditions. This is not a perfect example but it still a very nice one and it’s very early. Early Genesis played complex, structured music that either appeals or doesn’t, this is certainly not the commercial sound this band eventually changed too later and their early music has to be worked on for maximum pleasure. I am always fearful on pressing quality on these vintage Charisma records, they do vary considerably and so often they have hidden pressing sounds or noise. As much as I loved the bands that recorded on this famous progressive label, some were spoilt by less than perfect sound. This one is pretty good with any surface sound light and infrequent, this too on a fairly delicate album. It’s certainly better than some I have heard in the past, the playing surfaces suggest only modest use. The cover is also as fragile, again this is attractive with any blemishes or wear relatively light. The thin paper lyric insert is included also, the only blemish of real note to this being a very small, neat tear on the bottom edge. A immensely difficult and scarce album in all respects and although this is not connoisseur quality, it’s a very nice one and many collectors will treasure it.

This Cover’s Potential for Wear: Very High: [Unlaminated covers are always the most vulnerable for rubbing, fading, sticker tears and ringwear, gatefolds are more prone still and the darker they are, the more this type of wear occurs and shows. Some sleeves have a textured finish or die-cut shaped edges or ‘windows’. These are even more delicate and the hardest to find in top condition. Fully laminated covers are more resistent to wear but often the laminate ages with dulling, creases and blistering. Many 60s covers have outer flipback construction, these are very vulnerable to damage]. (US covers are the most fragile of all, very rarely laminated and made with thick brittle card that rubs and ringwears badly. Seams and edges split easily). Please see format below to access this cover’s potential for wear and damage.

Cover Grade and Format: EX(-) an unlaminated gatefold format with a matt textured finish on the outside faces. The centre is smooth and has the E. J. Day imprint and B&C credits as can be seen in my close up picture.

Cover Front: The front is attractive and generally clean. Only with close viewing can light surface and press marks be seen. Those few present mostly new the bottom edge. A couple of tiny scuffs near the top are just evident with the odd minor tone trace or tiny faint stain. The lack of ring marks and creasing is a bonus and there is barely trace of speckle to the delicate textured surface. Minor storage bottom edge burring is visible but few will avoid this totally. Given all the facts, this front has survived its 40 years well.

Cover Back: The back is similar but more vulnerable of course with a very heavy thick record inside all this time. Hence avoiding ringwear is immensely difficult and again, most of the early covers will have some. Here mostly present near the bottom edge with a trace near the top. There is a faint stain trace near the bottom left corner also, but this again this has modest visibility. These rare vintage progressive covers have to be taken for what they are, fragile and wear-prone, given the facts, this is a very decent example.

Cover Inner Gatefold: A few small marks and odd faint surface crease but this inside looks really lovely as I hope my close-up pictures shows.

Top Edges: Light rubbing on the front, more moderate on the back.

Bottom Edges: Moderate rubbing on both.

Right Edge(s), and Type: Clean, quite sharp with little wear and no feathering, guaranteed untrimmed. Record entered on this right outside back edge.

Spine and Text: Solid, straight with minimal compression and square, both right edges meet up perfectly together and parallel. The original covers had not text and the artwork flows around. A moderate rub-chip near the centre and the top and bottom has rubbed. That apart, this fragile spine has faired well.

Corners: All corners have rubbed in respect to their edge, the spine pair have rubbed around a centimeter downwards also. Respectable shape is retained however.

Cover Summary: Not perfect as my grading suggests but delicate and fragile, but still attractive and importantly, original. Many collectors will enjoy it but not for the more discerning collector this time.

The Insert: EX++ with a small tear on the bottom edge as mentioned already. One small minor edge crease with ultra faint and fine handling ruffles (this being very critical). Very clean and attractive, printed on one side only, even the back is clean. Thin and fragile and this will take some beating.

Inner: The plain white unlined inner is included also. The original owner put the band, title and Cat. No. on one corner in neat ball-pen. This has aged a little with some creasing and a very small bottom edge split. Again its original and not swapped, I feel it’s always important to reitterate this fact.

Vinyl Condition/Visual Grading: A fine EX, arguably better still with nothing more than faint and fine surface blemishes or hairlines. Most of any fine blemishes are seen on the run out grooves which are of little consequence. A very fine visual copy that is very clean with good shine, intense black and very heavily pressed. A copy that has been played a few times but light years off excessive. Visually a super record that should please many collectors again.

Album Played For Grading: Yes. [I play ALL records I offer before submitting to Ebay, also the record is played in its entirety unless clearly stated otherwise. I do NOT play snippetts or joining grooves to check for sound quality and quietness – I play from the beginning to end via clinically revealing B&W speakers that include the legendary tweeter from their awesome Nautilus range that reveals every blemish or miniscule sound present on any record.]

Sound Quality and Audio Grading: This rare original prog classic plays up too and mostly above its visual grading with little to fault. Strong, distortion-free sound, all frequencies are sharp and clear - sound quality is very high with a wide dynamic range and very detailed sound. Any surface sounds are gentle and light and mostly infrequent, but this does have a number of quieter passages and I truly believe ‘silence’ is a near impossible ask from a pink pressing. Just remember what so many of these could and indeed were played on. Many music lovers still used old mono record players for these types and often with disastrous consequences. One jolt or arm drop and another deep penetrating mark inflicted. That delicate and complex sound information in those grooves often shredded by worn chipped stylus that ruined the audio quality. This is a real delicate and intricate album (as already stated), but this very heavy record with deep grooves gave a lovely account of itself. The delicate instruments have an in the room quality and the finer detail like the triangle strikes are incredibly forward and sharp. If absolute dead silence is mandatory, well the CD version is an option, for those who enjoy the lovely realistic strums of 12-string guitars, delicate flutes and plucked strings, vinyl still has the edge. This is quite an intricate recording and work and not that commercial compared to their later titles. Few available early examples will better this vastly I feel sure. This does have a little gentle surface sound in places but it will only concern the most fussy or intolerant listener, the lack of significant pops or clicks is a major bonus on this album, those quiet passages have such fine compacted grooves that damage more easily. This copy could prove quite challenging to find significantly better, all considered this scarce album is worthy of high recommendation. Not connoisseur standard, if any collector has doubts, do not bid, but for those who want an early one, this is certainly worth considering.

Now one of the most established sellers on Ebay and still offering the finest and most accurately described and graded records I can find. I pride myself on offering a variety of genres to keep my site as interesting as possible. I will rarely offer any record that falls below a true Excellent grading, unless its of a certain rarity which will justify offering a lesser grade. I try, to the best of my ability to describe as accurately and as honesty as I can all items I offer for sale with all the relevant information I can think of to help any potential bidder and collector. You may notice I only submit records sparingly on Ebay - on average ONEADAY, a couple more at weekends if time permits, hence the name - time rarely allows for more as I Play-Grade virtually every record I offer in their entirety, not just bits to guess a grade - visuals alone do not always tell a true or full story. I will mention any defects or flaws no matter how small that I notice to be fair as possible to any interested collector – I am very fussy and my buyers have the right to be too. Every record I offer, whether it be a common or rare item deserves the same respect as far as I am concerned and will be treated the same - just because an item is rare does not always mean its good. I get just as much pleasure offering a relatively common record in stunning near mint condition as the real rare items. All the pictures I use for your guidance are taken with a digital camera or scanned - they are NOT improved, cleaned-up or made better looking than they are with camera trickery or enhancing with digital programmes. What you see is what you get and scanned labels will give a more accurate representation of the genuine colour than flash photography where light is variable. I cannot guarantee total accuracy for colours however but most will be very close. If any picture I take looks more flattering than the actual item for any reason, I will clearly state the fact in the advert and vice-versa. I hope the item below is to your liking - any questions can be emailed and I will do my very best to answer you. I am enthusiastic, and have a fair degree of knowledge about many genres and I promise quality items - bid with confidence - excellence comes as standard and so does Near Mint regularly. Please assume all records I offer have NO jumps, sticks, warps or writing on covers or labels unless clearly stated to the contrary. Thanks for your interest and Good luck – MIKE.

Equipment Used for Play-Grading: I now play-grade ALL the records I offer (unless clearly stated to the contrary) on the following equipment:

Deck: Linn LP12 with Ittok Mk IV arm and Ortofon Samba Moving Coil cartridge (tracks at 1.8 grams). Amps: Naim Nait 5i with Project USB phono stage and Chord interconnects. Speakers: B&W 704 Floorstanding 3-way Monitors (bi-wired). All records I offer on Ebay are cleaned on a professional Moth vacuum machine before play-grading for the cleanest and best possible sound and will include a brand new lined inner and protective cover too.

First-time, zero-rated bidders, who do not ask permission to bid, will be cancelled immediately and blocked – NO exceptions. For winning bidders who I consider excessively slow to make contact or submit payment, I will use my right to block future bids. If any bidder who wins in the final seconds is present to do so, surely they can at least email me to inform of intention and payment method? If swift or promp payment is a problem, please do not bid.

PACKING - THIS IS WHAT YOU GET - PLEASE SEE MY TYPICAL PACKING BOX PICTURE.

What You Get: To confirm to the strict Ebay rules on shipping, I must now send ALL my packets ‘Signed-For’ with NO exceptions. Both buyers and sellers want their packets to have a safer journey and this is not a bad thing.

I now offer the fastest possible posting, often the very next day after payment is received or within two to three days maximum (unless on holiday). I only use FIRST-CLASS Mail. The record’s cover will be placed within a BRAND NEW heavy duty soft protective sleeve and the actual record will be professionally cleaned on my Moth Pro vacuum system to give ultimate clean grooves and playing surfaces and the best possible looks and ultimate sound quality. You will NOT get tired, dull looking, dust infested records inside worn and foggy covers with tatty inners from this seller and that’s a promise and guarantee. All records are posted in professional thick boxes (NOT Mailers or Cruciforms, these do not offer maximum protection). The record(s) REMOVED from their main cover to avoid edge splits and placed within a brand new polylined inner. The record’s original inner will be included if available. The boxes are then reinforced with THREE or EVEN FOUR ULTRA THICK stiffeners for maximum extra protection – these are FOUR TIMES thicker than commercial stiffeners and are custom-made for oneadayrecords. Really rare and expensive albums will even be Double Boxed if deemed necessary and possible. The thick record and stiffener ‘sandwich’ is then thickly embedded into bubble-wrap to bulk out the record inside the box to centre the item inside to reduce the risk of damage still further. Printed address labels are used for clarity as well as a sender label. Customers requests or special needs for P&P will be respected if at all possible but ‘Signed-For’ posting is NOT an option anymore. Please see my picture of a typical finished box packet that will now be used on ALL transactions as from now. I do not profit on posting and the cost of this lavish packing is NOT even charged for, I offer probably the best-value and safest shipping possible for ultimate confidence. These boxes and ultra thick double-wall stiffners and bubble wrap make a near impregnable fortress for safe shipping and this is used inland and overseas for ALL my records, not just the rare and expensive. I will invoice any winning bidder as soon as possible after the auction ends. My ‘loss’ or ‘damage rate’ is less than one in two thousand based on over 6,000+ items sold in over 8 years of Ebay trading and I consider that pretty exceptional. The only damage rate acceptable for this seller is ZERO and I think my packets will offer just that. It would take a vicious postman or postal service to damage these for sure. Even one of these stiffners cannot be bent by hand, so what chance 3 or 4 inside a box? Oneadayrecords is a MAILER-FREE ZONE. I discount of course for multiple purchases with a maximum of FOUR records per box (one double can sometimes be included subject to total weight). I will not respond to questions on shipping costs as all the details are included here and on ALL of my adverts. Details below:

NOTE: First Time Bidders: I will cancel ALL first-time bidders with no feedbacks or excessive negatives who do not ask me if its OK to bid first – NO EXCEPTIONS.

Please Note: I will now offer any item to the runner-up after the mandatory Ebay 3 days if no contact is made by the winning bidder unless prior notice of any delay is given beforehand. The same applies if no payment is received within the mandatory 7 days so any bidder who has just lost out can still email me to reserve the item as priority second chance – it’s always worth asking.

SHIPPING COSTS & CONDITIONS – THESE comply with EBAY’S RULES - PLEASE READ CAREFULLY:

Posting & Packing: UK & CHANNEL ISLANDS all now sent via Recorded Delivery:

1 LP (FIRST-CLASS Recorded Delivery with Standard Royal Mail Insurance) [Signed For] = £4.

1 LP (Special Delivery with Standard £500 Maximum Insurance) [Signed For, Next Day] = £7.50. (this includes insurance of £500). Add £2 per extra LP.

Posting & Packing: EUROPE & SCANDINAVIA. (Airmail Only):

1 LP (Small Packet ‘Signed For’ with Standard Royal Mail Insurance [£39 maximum]) = £8. (insurance optional extra £3). Add £2 per extra LP.

Posting & Packing: ALL OVERSEAS (non-European) e.g. USA (ANY PART OF); Australia; Canada; Japan and other Far East; (Airmail Only: I NEVER use Surface Mail):

1 LP (Small Packet ‘Signed For’ with Standard Royal Mail Insurance [£39 maximum]) = £12. Add £3 per extra LP. (insurance optional extra £3)

Payment Conditions:

I prefer PayPal or cheque from UK winning bidders. I can accept PayPal from overseas bidders or direct payment into my bank account.

Potential Bidders: Please do not bid if you have negative feedback unless checking first, I will cancel any bids I feel are timewasters. A maximum 3 days for communication and 7 days for payment to arrive - if not I will relist the item or offer to the runner-up. Fast deals get great feedback from me. Any questions - please ask and thanks for looking.

My Guarantee: If any winning bidder is not satisfied with their purchase I will offer a complete refund. I will not refund if any defect detail is clearly stated on the advert and missed by the buyer, so read the item description carefully. If any overseas collector does not understand anything in my listing, please email and ask me to help. Thank You.

SOME GENERAL GUIDES TO WEAR AND CONDITIONS TO HELP YOU DECIDE

My Use of Description Terminology: Surface Marks = Superficial, usually light marks, hairlines or light scuffs that rarely sound. Scratch = a needle mark that goes below the record’s surface, some will sound, some will not, my play-grade will inform. Original = a record that has been pressed with the first label design which does NOT neccessarily mean a very first pressed record. First Pressing = A record that I believe or know to be a genuine very first pressed record. I do not claim to always know for sure, and that’s why I state the stamper and matrix numbers if at all possible, for those who claim to know what they all mean, the information is there for the collector to decide. I prefer to use terms like ‘Early Copy’ rather than ‘First Pressing’ if I am not totally sure. Surface Sound = Mild, light sound, usually light crackle or similar. Distortion = Break up of the actual sound caused by groove wear or damage from a chipped stylus – the most undesirable form of unwanted sound, vintage mono records were the most prone to this happening but not exclusively so. The symptoms of distortion are high frequency clipping, moderate constant crackle or an echo type sound quality. Violin, piano and vocals are most prone to groove-wear distortion. Feathering = Fraying or softening of the entry edge of a cover. Covers with feathered entrance edges are more likely to have had the actual record inserted and removed more than a non-feathered, sharp-edged cover which are always far more attractive. Set Off, actually a printer’s term for dark ink leaving mild residue on pale or white ink when rested upon. e.g. when a gatefold cover has black ink closed against white, this can leave some black residue on the pale area – this is mostly unavoidable or course.

The Argument for Vinyl Original sound and mix (mono mixes are rarely available on CD), high quality sound on clean copies (played on a hi-end dedicated analogue system – breathtaking sound!), beautiful, large format covers, artwork, inserts and even full size posters etc; huge investment potential, and the pleasure of owning ‘the real thing’.




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