INCREDIBLE STRING BAND RARE 1966 ELEKTRA EUK 254 VINYL
  £   42
  $   56

 


£ 42 Sold For
Jan 16, 2007 Sold Date
Jan 6, 2007 Start Date
£   14 Start price
8   Number Of Bids
  Great Britain Country Of Seller
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Thank you for visiting my listing. The section immediately below sets out information specific to the particular album / record offered in this listing. This is followed by my general comments about vinyl which you may want to browse through if you have time. Please feel free to email me with your own corresponding comments or observations, particularly if you have relevant information to add, with good quality evidence, which contradicts any of my assertions - I have been known to make a mistake, and I will always stand proven correction. I play grade all vinyls on a Project III deck fitted with an Ortofon OM 5E cartridge down-force set at 17.5 mN (1.75 g) through a Rega Brio amplifier with sound delivered by Focal Chorus 706 loudspeakers. Before bidding please take a careful look through my terms and conditions to avoid any misunderstandings.

 

Album / Record Title: INCREDIBLE STRING BAND (first album)

 

Rarity: Rates as A VERY RARE VINYL - this is the extremely rare 1966 second press with .A: & .B: matrices suggesting that it was pressed using the first press ‘Masters’. In 1966 the original album was produced in a very limited quantity on a white label with green logo and black lettering. Presumably the Record Company underestimated the demand for the work of these amazing songwriters and musicians, whose popularity was growing rapidly, so later in the same year (1966) they produced a second batch, again limited and of which this is an original, using the same catalogue number EUK254 only to find that they had to produce another more readily available third press in 1968. There seems little doubt that the white label first press is the rarest version as it is hardly ever seen for sale these days (I have only seen one change hands in the last two years for £250.00); but this fine second press in near excellent condition is almost as rare and delivers an absolutely superb audio performance. Even if you are lucky enough to own a white label first this would still form an admirable addition to your full set collection.

 

Artiste(s): INCREDIBLE STRING BAND - featuring Robin Williamson, Clive Palmer, Mike Heron

 

Disc Format: 12” LP

 

Recording Format: MONO

 

Record label: ELEKTRA ORIGINAL DEEP TEXTURED RED LABEL

 

Catalogue Number: EUK 254

 

Country of manufacture and first published date: Gt. BRITAIN 1966

 

Vinyl ‘run off’ matrices side 1:     EUK . 254 . A :

Vinyl ‘run off’ matrices side 2:     EUK . 254 . B :

Vinyl ‘run off’ stampers side 1:    none visible

Vinyl ‘run off’ stampers side 2:    1  2

 

Track Listing as per label: SIDE 1: MAYBE SOMEDAY / OCTOBER SONG / WHEN THE MUSIC STARTS TO PLAY / SCHAEFFER’S JIG / WOMANKIND / THE TREE / WHISTLE TUNE / DANDELION BLUES SIDE 2: HOW HAPPY I AM / EMPTY POCKET BLUES / SMOKE SHOVELLING SONG / CAN’T KEEP ME HERE / GOOD AS GONE / FOOTSTEPS OF THE HERON / NIGGERTOWN / EVERYTHING’S FINE RIGHT NOW

 

Opinion: The first album from The Incredible String Band and perhaps the best album of its genre ever to be produced - certainly for me a revelation in folk music and followed by the Wee Tam and the Big Huge really formative music from the period. These are becoming more scarce by the day and it’s already very hard to find one in as good a condition as this.

 

MY GRADING OF THIS ALBUM (based on Record Collector ‘Rare Record Price Guide 2008’)

 

Vinyl Visual side 1: VERY GOOD+ please note that I am grading in this section based on appearance only and as the vinyl has a few more noticeable scratches as well as the usual superficial surface lines I have adjusted the grade accordingly however, as you will see further on in this listing, the play grades as excellent. It still retains that lovely glossy deep black shine and has no serious or tangible scratches which interfere with play or have any significant audio affect.

Vinyl Visual side 2: VERY GOOD+ exactly the same comments apply as for side 1.

 

Label Visual side 1: EXCELLENT+ no marks, no tears, no scuffs - as new

Label Visual side 2: EXCELLENT+ no marks, no tears, no scuffs - as new

 

Outer Cover: VERY GOOD+ fully laminated classic single slip cover designed by William S Harvey, photo by Joe Boyd, songs copyright of Paradox Music Ltd. Sleeve / Cover notes by Mike Heron. Minimal very light creasing which is hard to see, light handling marks and gentle surface rub wear on the unlaminated back along with small handling marks which can be seen on the photographs but not significant , narrow band of laminate lift adjacent to the spine but not broken, light rubbing to the extreme edges and corners. Two tiny pin hole marks which are hard to see top left and top right. Please note that due to the fact that the back is laminated the small handling marks will probably clean off - in which case this cover would grade near to excellent.

 

Spine: EXCELLENT lovely square shouldered spine, clear, fully readable, almost as new except for a little rubbing on each corner.

 

Inner Sleeve: VERY GOOD+ nothing special just original white paper browning with age and having a few tiny tears and minor creases.

 

Vinyl Warp: none visible when eye tested on a moving turntable.

Vinyl Weight: 160 grammes (one of the original heavyweights)

 

Play Grade: EXCELLENT

 

Audio Performance: THIS IS A TRULY INCREDIBLE ALBUM IN EVERY RESPECT BUT THE HEAVY VINYL IS OUTSTANDING AND DELIVERS AN EXEMPLARY AUDIO PERFORMANCE. THERE IS A LITTLE LIGHT CRACKLE HERE AND THERE AND THE ODD SOFT TICK BETWEEN TRACKS BUT FRANKLY FOR ME IT WAS WHAT AUDIO FROM VINYL SHOULD BE ALL ABOUT - I COULD HAVE BEEN AT A LIVE PERFORMANCE.

 

Other: I personally rate this album very highly indeed.

 

PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT MY OTHER LISTINGS BY CLICKING ON THE ‘VIEW SELLERS OTHER ITEMS’ IN THE TOP RIGHT HAND CORNER BOX OF THIS LISTING - THANK YOU.

 

My definition of a rare vinyl: Generally there is agreement that to qualify for the description rare there should not be too many of the type offered, available on the market at the time. With my listings that will be the main criterion however I will also occasionally claim rarity based on excellence of condition, or some other key feature, or an accompanying item such as an insert, which is not often found with similar vinyls.

 

UK first and early pressings: This has become something of a ‘fashion accessory’ for many of the albums listed on eBay and, as with fashion, there are many imitators. Of course with the more popular huge selling albums, where the record companies were fairly sure of major sales from the outset. there were many first pressings but otherwise this was not usually the case. Generally the lower the numbers in the matrices on the vinyl ‘run off’ areas on both sides of a record the earlier the pressing therefore ‘A1’ & ‘B1’ are most often first or early pressings, but there are variants and exceptions to the rule. The most notable ones, for example where the ‘1’ matrix was only used for test pressings so the commercial releases started at ‘2’, are well documented now but there are a few more observations which are worth noting. There are low numbered matrices which belong to second and even third pressings - in this case the record companies gave similar numbers to the first press of a re-issue - you can normally identify these by, examining the labels which are often different, and/or checking the weight of the record as the earlier pressings were normally heavier. This weight difference also applies to the different symbols used in the matrices for example some record companies first denoted early pressings with A61 & B61 for example and then changed to A // 1 & B // 1, in these cases the weight of the vinyl is often all important with identification. Occasionally there are high numbers on first pressings, but this is unusual. Other points to note are the manufacturer of the ‘cover’ or ‘outer sleeve’ and various characteristics or design variants. The ‘inner sleeve’ or ‘bag’ can also be an indicator. However it is not wise to rely on details beyond the matrices and labels as the covers and sleeves can easily be interchanged - the best advice is to try and make sure that everything matches the criteria thus eliminating most of the risk (a good look at the photographs on the listing, if they are of the actual item offered as they are on all of my listings, is always advisable). As a general rule I suggest that you don’t pay hundred’s or thousands of pounds unless you are buying from a reliable source who provide you with clear information and have a clearly stated ‘Returns Policy’ - or unless you’ve got money to throw away (and in that case there are any number of far more deserving charities)

 

Audio reproduction on vinyl: In my experience there is always an element of surface or background sound with audio reproduction on vinyl - very hard to imagine how there could not be when two solid surfaces come into contact with each other and are then amplified! Almost all used vinyl has at least light surface scratches which are always visible when viewed under a bright halogen light - which is what I use for inspection. So if you are uncomfortable with a bit of light crackling it’s probably best not to buy vinyl. In my opinion the light surface sound is more than compensated for by the clarity and ‘reality’ of the overall sound reproduction. I listen carefully to every album I list before listing it for sale.

 

Finally: All of this comment contained in this listing is subjective, it is based only on my opinion and your expectations may not necessarily correspond with my standards. If you receive an album from me and you have some differences please remember to use reasonable communication as a first option. I have a comprehensive non confrontational ‘Returns Policy’ which is clearly set out below and providing there is no abuse, or use the negative feedback system, I will always reimburse you in full for your direct costs if you return the album correctly.

 

 

TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF SALE

 

DESCRIPTIONS: Are given in good faith, but they are based on my opinion and standards.  Bidders should note that they offer at their own risk and must satisfy themselves that they have sufficient information about the item before they enter the bidding process.  Please ask questions before you become involved with the auction, NOT afterwards! Where I list sizes/dimensions they are either as stated on the item/label by the supplier/manufacturer or reasonably accurately hand tape measured; however, they are not necessarily precise, should be taken as approximate and not relied upon where absolute precision is required. This clause does not in any way affect your rights under the terms of my ‘Returns Policy’, it is stated to prevent unnecessary inconvenience to both parties.

 

INFORMATION: Whilst I take care to try and provide accurate information on the original listing it is possible that new information may become available to me afterwards. I therefore strongly recommend that all bidders read any revisions and the ongoing questions / answers section of the listing before bidding as they may contain updated information which could affect your valuation of the item(s). In the event that new information is published, after the time you have become the high bidder, which adversely affects your valuation of the item(s) and you wish to withdraw from the bidding process please email your request and I will use the cancel bid option with no ongoing liability to any of the parties involved in the auction.

 

PHOTOGRAPHS: All photographs contained within this listing show the actual item (s) offered – they are not catalogue, archive or library photographs.  Furthermore they are direct images and not re-touched or modified in any way. I try to make good and comprehensive use of images on the listing in order to give the prospective bidder the best opportunity to evaluate the item(s); however it is possible that in some circumstances the photographs can enhance the appearance of the item(s) due to compression so please take this into account before bidding and do not hesitate to ask for more images or information which I am happy to send by attachment to email. This is particularly recommended with overseas buyers where returns are often not a viable option.  

 

OVERSEAS BUYERS WELCOME: I am pleased to deal with buyers from anywhere in the world. My method of LP packaging reduces the risk to your valuable vinyls & covers in transit. Makes no sense to me to buy something important and then play the ‘high risk of damage game’ when having it shipped around the world – I hope you feel the same. Unless the prospective bidder / buyer states a preference I always quote Airmail as Surface Mail does not usually cost much less and takes a long time (again more risk of damage or loss I think). Also please note that for British Pounds £3.30 extra you can have an International Signed for service which includes insurance up to £32. Insurance quotations to a value you specify in advance of shipping are available on request.

 

PACKING & POSTAGE:  Vinyl’s are removed from covers and placed in separate transit sleeves. All components are then placed side by side in a polythene inner for extra safety and water resistance and then secured between two corrugated card stiffeners. I use ‘Premium Quality 600 Micron Card Mailers’ with ‘Ultra Safe’ double 3.5 cm. wide latex strips across the whole of the mailer which provides excellent adhesion and protection. Internally I use 2 of the highest grade ‘B’ flute corrugated card stiffeners to prevent bending, deformation or edge/corner creasing. Packing & postage prices are NOT negotiable on items dispatched individually or separately. However, if you are a similar time multiple buyer where all items purchased are being sent to the same address and they can be combined safely, you can ask for a discounted quotation before bidding. I will always try to be fair with buyers on p&p costs but if you do not want to pay the prices on the listings or quotations please do not bid.  I am not interested in hearing from successful bidders afterwards questioning and complaining about cost of packing and postage! I always keep proof of posting but unless you pay for Recorded Delivery, International Signed For, Special Delivery or Full Insurance I may not be able to assist you with recovery of the item or any of the costs.

 

Where postal insurance is included it is subject to Royal Mail Standard Terms & Conditions. Quotations for other insurance or premiums to cover increased values are available on request

 

PAYMENT: For Buyers WITHIN the UK: Pound sterling cheques/money orders (with minimum 7 days to clear before despatch) or cash (rounded up and sent in a registered envelope at buyer’s risk), are all acceptable forms of payment.

 

PAYMENT: For Buyers OUTSIDE of the UK: Payments by PayPal only please.

 

CANCELLATION: The Seller reserves the right to cancel any bid, entirely at his discretion and without giving prior notice, in the following circumstances:

 

They have reason to believe that the bidder has not complied with the terms of their offer as set out on the listing.

 

The bidder’s feedback is of such limited quantity that it cannot be regarded as reliable.

 

The bidder’s feedback is of dubious quality and/or gives the seller any indication or reason to doubt the credibility of the bid.

 

MY FEEDBACK POLICY: I leave feedback for buyers after they inform me that they have received the item(s) and have left me their feedback. As I have a clearly stated Returns Policy, which does not expose the buyer to any direct loss whatsoever, I see no reason for either side to indulge in negative feedback. Providing the buyer does not engage in threats, abuse or use of negative feedback I will resolve any problem in a fair and reasonable way. If you have a problem or complaint about any transaction you have made with me contact me on somemightsell_e@btinternet.com and we will find a solution that is acceptable to you.

On 10-Jan-07 at 17:49:40 GMT, seller added the following information:

 

PLEASE NOTE: eBay TRUST & SAFETY CANCELLED MY ‘DOGFEET’ ALBUM LISTING ON THE 10th.JANUARY 2007, WITHOUT PRIOR NOTICE OR COMMUNICATION, SUBSEQUENTLY INFORMING ME THAT THEY HAD DONE SO BECAUSE I WAS SOLICITING CASH PAYMENT IN MY OFFER. IN MY OPINION THIS IS NOT A TRUE STATEMENT OR RATIONAL DECISION ON THEIR PART; I MERELY STATED ON MY LISTINGS THAT I ENABLE CASH PAYMENTS SHOULD THE BUYER CHOOSE, AS I HAVE BEEN ASKED BY BIDDERS IN THE PAST IF THIS IS A POSSIBILITY - ON THE CONTRARY THE LISTINGS STATE CLEARLY THAT I PREFER PAYPAL OR CHEQUE PAYMENT. HOWEVER AS, WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE, THEIR UNREASONABLE ACTION HAS CAUSED MYSELF AND BIDDERS MUCH UNECESSARY INCONVENIENCE I REGRET THAT THIS NOTICE SUPERCEDES ANY PREVIOUS OFFER I MAY HAVE MADE TO ACCEPT CASH PAYMENTS IN MY LISTINGS. WILL BIDDERS NOTE THAT IN FUTURE I CAN ONLY ACCEPT PAYMENTS BY PAYPAL OR CHEQUE FROM UK BUYERS AND PAYPAL ONLY FROM BUYERS OUTSIDE OF THE UK (THEY ALSO INFORM ME THAT ‘Sellers may accept COD (cash on delivery) or cash for in person transactions.’ PERSONALLY I DON’T SEE THE DIFFERENCE). I HAVE HAD TO MAKE THE PAYMENTS AMENDMENT IN THIS WAY BECAUSE IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO REVISE THE PAYMENT TEXT AFTER THERE IS A BID ON A LISTING. I APOLOGISE FOR ANY INCONVENIENCE AND WILL BE RELISTING THE ‘DOGFEET’ ALBUM FOR SALE AGAIN BY AUCTION ON eBay WITHIN THE NEXT FEW DAYS.




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